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<P>Thank you for clarifying the space required for a seed orchard. This fenced in area once fully cleared will have more than the 2/3 acre needed. It is irrigated, as well as fenced, and slopes to the south. I expect to have maybe 7-10 BC3s survive the innoculation process out of the 175 that are in the orchard now. My question to you is: Will these remaining trees pose an obstacle or not to having a seed orchard replace this BC3 orchard?</P>
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<P>Gratefully,</P>
<P>John</P>
<P><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Fred Hebard" <Fred@acf.org><BR>To: masschestnutorchards@masschestnut.org<BR>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:33:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news<BR><BR>John,<BR><BR>You need room for 20 plots of 38' x 38', or 2/3 of an acre. An acre <BR>is 43560 sq feet, but most plots aren't even in shape. You also need <BR>a 30-60' border, especially on the south side, to get full sunlight.<BR><BR>Fred<BR><BR>On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:36 PM, j.johnmeiklejohn@comcast.net wrote:<BR><BR>> Hi Kendra,<BR>><BR>> Thanks for getting back to me on this important issue. To be <BR>> absolutely certain, I would like a 2nd opinion from Fred or <BR>> Charlotte on this issue of seed orchard block size as there is no <BR>> purpose in my expanding the cleared area of the fenced breeding <BR>> orchard if it won't meet the minimum requirement on size for a seed <BR>> orchard.<BR>><BR>><BR>> John Meiklejohn<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Kendra Gurney" <kendra@acf.org><BR>> To: masschestnutorchards@masschestnut.org<BR>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:36:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news<BR>><BR>><BR>> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; <BR>> panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; <BR>> panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; <BR>> panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ <BR>> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin- <BR>> bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New <BR>> Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; <BR>> color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, <BR>> span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; <BR>> text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style- <BR>> type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; <BR>> color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font- <BR>> size:10.0pt;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in <BR>> 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --><BR>> Hi John –<BR>><BR>><BR>> To answer your question on seed orchard block size, you need one <BR>> acre of space. I’d invite Fred or Sara to chime in here if there <BR>> may be room to plant a block in ¾ of an acre, but I believe with <BR>> the tight spacing there is less “wiggle room” on the size than <BR>> there is for a breeding orchard.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Kendra<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: masschestnutorchards-bounces@masschestnut.org <BR>> [mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces@masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of <BR>> John Meiklejohn<BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:58 AM<BR>> To: masschestnutorchards@masschestnut.org<BR>> Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news<BR>><BR>><BR>> Jamie & John Mirick:<BR>><BR>><BR>> Re: developing a conservation easement for the Granville ACF orchard<BR>><BR>><BR>> I was glad to see John has started the process of developing a <BR>> template for easement agreements. He and I had talked at past mtgs <BR>> about collaborating on this but we had not actively connected on it.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Here is the status on my end for developing an easement agreement <BR>> for the Granville orchard. With help from a friend I am slowly <BR>> clearing the trees and brush from the remainder of the current <BR>> fenced orchard area to create a space that will be about 3/4 of an <BR>> acre. My understanding is that for BC3F2 orchards we want a <BR>> minimum of 3/4 acre plots [please confirm that I'm correct here]. <BR>> Once the new area is cleared the plantable area within the fence <BR>> will be .70 to .75 of an acre based on my recent rough <BR>> measurement. If this is too small for a BC3F2 orchard plot then I <BR>> need to know and will stop the work of expanding this plot. Also, <BR>> if the plot is not large enough for the next generation then there <BR>> is little reason to create an easement unless we want to protect <BR>> the 5-10 BC3 trees that will hopefully survive the innoculation <BR>> process. [This BC3 orchard should be ready for innoculation next <BR>> year.]<BR>><BR>><BR>> Since I'm determined to use a portion of our land for a TACF-MA <BR>> BC3F2 plot I've measured another field that is at least .75 of an <BR>> acre. That too will take a bit of clean up to be ready for <BR>> planting. It is not fenced but could be.<BR>><BR>><BR>> I'd prefer to use the first field for the conservation easement <BR>> with TACF-MA because it is set to one side of our main acreage and <BR>> it already has drip irrigation installed.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Could one of you or Charlotte or Fred confirm for me that the plots <BR>> for BC3F2 nuts must be of a certain minimum size. Before I proceed <BR>> with John on the conservation easement I want to be certain that I <BR>> have chosen an appropriate area for the easement and for the next <BR>> generation planting.<BR>><BR>><BR>> On a different subject, I went up to the Granville State Forest <BR>> last weekend to check on the Am. Chestnut that the State Forester <BR>> had informed us about. The tree is about 8"dbh, shows no signs of <BR>> disease on the main trunk, possible disease presence on an upper <BR>> branch, and about 20-30 burrs. It would be accessible to a <BR>> smallish bucket truck in dryer weather. It's about 50 ft down a <BR>> woods road off a main road through the Granville SF.<BR>><BR>><BR>> John Meiklejohn<BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list <BR>> MassChestnutOrchards@masschestnut.org http://mrsgale.fates.org/ <BR>> mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list<BR>> MassChestnutOrchards@masschestnut.org<BR>> http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>MassChestnutOrchards mailing list<BR>MassChestnutOrchards@masschestnut.org<BR>http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards<BR></P></div></body></html>