[MassChestnutOrchards] Feedback needed: MA/RI Chapter Data Permissions (Database Project)
cbzampini at aol.com
cbzampini at aol.com
Tue Jan 26 10:30:45 EST 2010
I believe like that our data should be available to anyone who wants
it. We are a charitable research organization supported in large part
by individuals and the general public through the goverment.The
suggestion of possibly granting permission is in my opinion not
something that would be used to restrict access but to be informed of
when someone intended to use the data and to hopefully have an
opportunity to read and comment on any publication.Scientific
manuscripts have to go through a review process. Reviewers generally
want to know that data was used with the permission of the person who
generated it.
The question about potential missuse of our data is relevant but not I
believe a sufficient reason to restrict data. The mjor credibility
problems that climate researchers are now dealing with are due in large
part to their emails exposing a collective effort to restrict access to
data and this being interpreted as a cover up. Obviously as they also
complained it is time consuming and frustrating to have to have to deal
with people who might deliberately try to manipulate the data to
support an agenda and to have to take the time to refute them. This is
however the scientific process, and it usually works.
-----Original Message-----
From: j. meiklejohn <j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Feedback needed: MA/RI Chapter Data
Permissions (Database Project)
Since I haven't as yet heard a compelling argument for restriction of
our MA/RI TACF data, and since National has not laid out any
restrictive guidelines, I concur with John Mirick's line of reasoning.
However, I would like to hear more from Charlotte and Kendra on this
issue before taking a Board vote
John Meiklejohn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yvonne Federowicz" <Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:02:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Feedback needed: MA/RI Chapter Data
Permissions (Database Project)
I generally agree, provided that people credit the chapter etc. for the
data... Which should be standard procedure for anyone publishing anyhow.
Perhaps Charlotte has thoughts too? Other folks?
On 1/25/10 11:57 AM, "Mirick, John O."
<jmirick at mirickoconnell.com> wrote:
At the risk of being too provocative, can anyone articulate a reason to
RESTRICT use of our data? For publication or otherwise? (I appreciate
that I’m approaching this issue as a layperson, rather than as a
graduate student or faculty member.) But if someone in a university
program wants to review our data and write a paper, say on the growth
rate of BC3 crosses in glacial till in Zone 4 in Massachusetts as
compared to sandy soil in Zone 5, or on survival rate of germinated
seeds with irrigation systems as compared to occasional watering by
hand, or on the incidence of deer browse and the success of
counter-measures, isn’t it in the interests of re-introducing the
chestnuts to have as many such studies as possible out there?
Absent a contrary direction from National, or a really compelling
reason for restriction, I would allow access and use to all, including
access and use for publication.
John
From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org
[mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of
Yvonne Federowicz
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:39 AM
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Feedback needed: MA/RI Chapter Data
Permissions (Database Project)
Are folks saying that they think everyone should have standing
permission to publish using our data? (That wasn’t exactly what our
meeting Motion implied, from my perspective.)
Thanks. Yvonne
On 1/25/10 11:14 AM, "Guy Shepard" <tsuga35 at aol.com> wrote:
I go along with Mike, let anyone use it until national says something,
we are helping american forests.
Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: Federowicz, Yvonne Marie <Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 9:38 am
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Feedback needed: MA/RI Chapter Data
Permissions (Database Project)
Hello - the group of TACF national & chapter people working on the
database
would like feedback re. this Motion that MA/RI came up with in our
January
meeting.
I know we aren't in a Board meeting so we can't have an ideal
discussion of
this, but they would like feedback so your considered ideas are very
welcome.
They would like to know:
(1.) Who in our chapter would approve use of the MA/RI data;
(2.) Does everyone need permission from the group in (1.) to publish
using this
data?
This could include:
a.) TACF national staff
b.) MA/RI board members, chapter members
c.) Outside (academic/research) persons
d.) Anyone else you can think of here?
We could also give certain people or groups "standing permission"; I
think that
at the least, we probably would give MA/RI Board members such
permission,
otherwise Charlotte couldn't even make lists from the data for
presentation,
without us taking a vote. (we discussed this some)
*************
* Motion:
* 01/1010
*************
* We strongly feel that it is important for our data (both summaries
and raw) to
be viewably (read access) open to chapters and TACF members and staff.
However
people will need permission to use our data to publish.
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