From Roy at Najecki.com  Tue Dec  1 19:53:45 2009
From: Roy at Najecki.com (Roy)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:53:45 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
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Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop 
at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of 
Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist 
of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample 
C.E.  The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line 
conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon 
Society.

I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?). 
Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th. 
http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm

Roy
Glocester RI 



From j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net  Tue Dec  1 20:37:41 2009
From: j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net (j. meiklejohn)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:37:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
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Roy, 



Thank you for these leads.? I'd definitely be interested in seeing the manual providing no one is in pressing need for it prior to our January meeting.?? I could look it over, copy what I need and bring the manual to our next mtg.? In 2010 my wife and I plan to create a CE for our property, part of which will be for a planned MA-TACF seed orchard.? If Jamie and the powers that be approve, you may send the manual to: 

?????????J. Meiklejohn 

?????????183 Silver St. 

?????????Granville, MA 01034 



In the meantime, can you send me the link for the on-line CE manual for MA created by the Audubon Society? 



Thanks, 

John 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com> 
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements 

Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop 
at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of 
Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist 
of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample 
C.E. ?The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line 
conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon 
Society. 

I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?). 
Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th. 
http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm 

Roy 
Glocester RI 


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From Roy at Najecki.com  Tue Dec  1 20:49:22 2009
From: Roy at Najecki.com (Roy)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:49:22 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
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John,

Here is the link:
http://www.massaudubon.org/Nature_Connection/landprotection/news.php?id=298&event=no&sanc_news=yes

I just tried it and it works.

Cheers,
Roy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: j. meiklejohn 
  To: Roy ; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements


  Roy,



  Thank you for these leads.  I'd definitely be interested in seeing the manual providing no one is in pressing need for it prior to our January meeting.   I could look it over, copy what I need and bring the manual to our next mtg.  In 2010 my wife and I plan to create a CE for our property, part of which will be for a planned MA-TACF seed orchard.  If Jamie and the powers that be approve, you may send the manual to:

           J. Meiklejohn

           183 Silver St.

           Granville, MA 01034



  In the meantime, can you send me the link for the on-line CE manual for MA created by the Audubon Society?



  Thanks,

  John


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com>
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
  Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements

  Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop 
  at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of 
  Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist 
  of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample 
  C.E.  The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line 
  conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon 
  Society.

  I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?). 
  Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th. 
  http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm

  Roy
  Glocester RI 


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From jmirick at mirickoconnell.com  Wed Dec  2 09:47:02 2009
From: jmirick at mirickoconnell.com (Mirick, John O.)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:47:02 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements and Conservation
	Restrictions
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John:

To illustrate what is involved in a Massachusetts Conservation Restriction (CR), I am attaching a recorded copy of one of the CRs that our Princeton Land Trust received.

The section on ?Purpose? is important.  Massachusetts Department of Recreation and Conservation (DCR) and local town must be convinced that CR confers a public benefit.  In Princeton, that?s not usually a concern because every drop of surface water in Princeton ends up in a reservoir.  In other areas, approval may not be automatic, particularly if the town in which the land is located sees the CR has primarily benefiting the landowner by reducing the landowner?s real estate taxes (for example, a CR on an buildable lot adjacent to the donor?s house).

?Prohibited Uses? is pretty much dictated by the Mass DCR, and has been expanded in recent years in response to problems that DCR has encountered.  Generally, I find that potential donors are in agreement with DCR?s list of prohibited uses.

The section of ?Permitted Uses? has some room for negotiation.  In a CR that is intended to allow a seed orchard, we?d probably want to make an explicit statement.

A CR needs a surveyed plan (so that boundaries can be determined and maintained).

A CR is a permanent gift.  For IRS charitable deduction purposes, an appraiser determines the value of the land without a CR, and the value of the land with a CR.  The decrease in value is a charitable gift, provided that the donee meets IRS regulations.  Gifting a CR to a qualified charitable organization also usually results in a lower assessment of the land for real estate taxes, although tax assessors are not automatically required to accept the opinion of the appraiser (nor is the IRS, for that matter).

In contrast to the permanence of a CR, an easement can be temporary or terminable,  according to the terms of the easement.  For example, an easement can be for a specific time (say, 30 years), and can be subject to specified conditions of maintenance (say, remove all brush and saplings other than chestnut trees in excess of 1? diameter).  At least in theory, an easement may also qualify for a charitable deduction, but the appraisal process if trickier because (usually) the easement is not a permanent gift.

Incidentally, the donee organization does not participate in the valuation of any gift (CR or easement).  The  donee organization does sign IRS Form 8283 to acknowledge receipt of the gift.

Hope this helps rather than burying you under esoteric legal principles.  Good subject for discussion at January meeting.

John

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From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org [mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of j. meiklejohn
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:38 PM
To: Roy; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements


Roy,



Thank you for these leads.  I'd definitely be interested in seeing the manual providing no one is in pressing need for it prior to our January meeting.   I could look it over, copy what I need and bring the manual to our next mtg.  In 2010 my wife and I plan to create a CE for our property, part of which will be for a planned MA-TACF seed orchard.  If Jamie and the powers that be approve, you may send the manual to:

         J. Meiklejohn

         183 Silver St.

         Granville, MA 01034



In the meantime, can you send me the link for the on-line CE manual for MA created by the Audubon Society?



Thanks,

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements

Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop
at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of
Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist
of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample
C.E.  The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line
conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon
Society.

I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?).
Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th.
http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm

Roy
Glocester RI


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From j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net  Wed Dec  2 11:34:45 2009
From: j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net (j. meiklejohn)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:34:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements and Conservation
 Restrictions
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John: 



Thank you for forwarding the sample of a CR.? I've been reading Small's series of books on "Preserving Family Lands" and your doc will no doubt flesh out some of the principles and guidelines he discusses.? Also, my wife Sarah has a paralegal background, and will be working closely with me as we meet with various professionals and entities to design our conservation easement or restriction.? 



Look forward to seeing you in Jan.? Thanks again for the detailed email. 



John 


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From: "John O. Mirick" <jmirick at mirickoconnell.com> 
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org, "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 9:47:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements and Conservation Restrictions 




John: 



To illustrate what is involved in a Massachusetts Conservation Restriction (CR), I am attaching a recorded copy of one of the CRs that our Princeton Land Trust received. 



The section on ?Purpose? is important. Massachusetts Department of Recreation and Conservation (DCR) and local town must be convinced that CR confers a public benefit. In Princeton, that?s not usually a concern because every drop of surface water in Princeton ends up in a reservoir. In other areas, approval may not be automatic, particularly if the town in which the land is located sees the CR has primarily benefiting the landowner by reducing the landowner?s real estate taxes (for example, a CR on an buildable lot adjacent to the donor?s house). 



?Prohibited Uses? is pretty much dictated by the Mass DCR, and has been expanded in recent years in response to problems that DCR has encountered. Generally, I find that potential donors are in agreement with DCR?s list of prohibited uses. 



The section of ?Permitted Uses? has some room for negotiation. In a CR that is intended to allow a seed orchard, we?d probably want to make an explicit statement. 



A CR needs a surveyed plan (so that boundaries can be determined and maintained). 



A CR is a permanent gift. For IRS charitable deduction purposes, an appraiser determines the value of the land without a CR, and the value of the land with a CR. The decrease in value is a charitable gift, provided that the donee meets IRS regulations. Gifting a CR to a qualified charitable organization also usually results in a lower assessment of the land for real estate taxes, although tax assessors are not automatically required to accept the opinion of the appraiser (nor is the IRS, for that matter). 



In contrast to the permanence of a CR, an easement can be temporar y or terminable , according to the terms of the easement. For example, an easement can be for a specific time (say, 30 years), and can be subject to specified conditions of maintenance (say, remove all brush and saplings other than chestnut trees in excess of 1? diameter). At least in theory, an easement may also qualify for a charitable deduction, but the appraisal process if trickier because (usually) the easement is not a permanent gift. 



Incidentally, the donee organization does not participate in the valuation of any gift (CR or easement). The donee organization does sign IRS Form 8283 to acknowledge receipt of the gift. 



Hope this helps rather than burying you under esoteric legal principles. Good subject for discussion at January meeting. 



John 



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From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org [mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of j. meiklejohn 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:38 PM 
To: Roy; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements 




Roy, 



Thank you for these leads.? I'd definitely be interested in seeing the manual providing no one is in pressing need for it prior to our January meeting.?? I could look it over, copy what I need and bring the manual to our next mtg.? In 2010 my wife and I plan to create a CE for our property, part of which will be for a planned MA-TACF seed orchard.? If Jamie and the powers that be approve, you may send the manual to: 

?????????J. Meiklejohn 

?????????183 Silver St. 

?????????Granville, MA 01034 



In the meantime, can you send me the link for the on-line CE manual for MA created by the Audubon Society? 



Thanks, 

John 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com> 
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements 

Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop 
at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of 
Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist 
of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample 
C.E. ?The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line 
conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon 
Society. 

I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?). 
Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th. 
http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm 

Roy 
Glocester RI 


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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Wed Dec  2 14:11:26 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Yvonne Federowicz)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:11:26 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
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Thanks very much for the great information, Roy!

I will try to attend the Dec. 10th workshop.

I also stopped by the RI TNC office this morning, and got a couple of names
of people to talk to there.

Yvonne


On 12/1/09 7:53 PM, "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com> wrote:

> Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop
> at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of
> Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist
> of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample
> C.E.  The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line
> conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon
> Society.
> 
> I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?).
> Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th.
> http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm
> 
> Roy
> Glocester RI 
> 
> 
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From j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net  Sat Dec  5 17:08:05 2009
From: j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net (John Meiklejohn)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:08:05 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] conservation restrictions & easements
Message-ID: <114A70D7BFC648AEBD8018CA981BCDAB@sarah>

To:  John Mirick
From:  John Meiklejohn
Re:  structuring conservation easements or restrictions

In reading the sample CR held by the Princeton Land Trust that you'd forwarded several questions arose pertinent to our planned CR or CE in Granville, MA, and the same questions may be relevant for others setting up seed orchard related easements on behalf of the MA/RI-TACF.  Briefly -
    1.  We expect to have two fields totalling about 2 to 2.5 acres that will need to be put into a CE or CR for the benefit of TACF.  One is a BC3 existing orchard and the other is the planned seed orchard.
    2.  These fields are a part of  50-55 acre parcel that we plan to put into a CE or CR in 2010.  These two fields are also on the edge of this larger acreage, so conceivably these fields could either be a part of the large CE/CR or a separate smaller one.

Questions:
    1.  Is it possible to set up, with a land trust, a CE or CR for the entire acreage in question, including the 2+ acres dedicated to TACF's mission, specifying carefully under "permitted uses" the various aspects of TACF's work?  Could this adequately protect TACF's access to and maintenance of the orchard fields?

    2.  If #1 is possible, is it preferable to setting up a CE or CR for the TACF fields, separate from the larger acreage?

    3.  What might the pros and cons be of #1 for TACF [and ourselves as landowners]?

    4.  Are either MA-TACF or the national TACF legally permitted to hold CEs or CRs or would a land trust or other entity need to be involved on TACF's behalf?  [I assume they will need an alliance with one or more land trusts.]

I look forward to and appreciate your thoughts on all this.

Thanks, in advance,

John
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From jmirick at mirickoconnell.com  Sun Dec  6 13:03:23 2009
From: jmirick at mirickoconnell.com (Mirick, John O.)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:03:23 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] conservation restrictions & easements
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John:

My recommendation is a CR to an established Land Trust with a proven track record and a likelihood of a strong, continuing future, with fairly explicit provisions written into the "permitted uses" section of the CR for the seed orchard and the BC3 orchard.  This would require a little "chicken or the egg" negotiation with everyone (TACF, Land Trust, Granville, and DCR) to be certain that everyone was comfortable with the seed orchard and the BC3 orchard as a permitted use.  Since there is a risk that TACF protocols could change over time span for seed orchard, and since there is a certainty the TACF personnel will change over time, the "permitted uses" language should be drafted to allow for some change.

Steps are probably:

(1)  Decide what TACF needs.  Not just size and location, but also care and maintenance of orchard.  For example, DCTR (and some towns) are super-sensitive to use of herbicides and pesticides on CR land.  At present, some of our orchards use herbicides.  There's a chance that as we move towards nut production, we'll want to use pesticides for control of chestnut weevil.  So the "permitted uses" is going to need some language along the lines of "use a portion of the land for a seed production orchard, which may involve the incidental use of herbicides and pesticides consistent with best practices."  Might need right to cut trees on adjacent land that could shade the orchard?  Right to pump water from stream/well for irrigation? (although presumably once trees are established, irrigation is no longer needed).  Developing this language requires use of a crystal ball, but the effort is essential.  Ideal for TACF is an easement, given and recorded immediately before CR is given and recorded, so that legally CR is subject to the easement.  In the (hopefully unlikely) event of a fight between TACF and land trust down the road, or in the (hopefully equally unlikely) demise of the land trust, the recorded easement insures that TACF's rights are protected.

(2)  Simultaneously identify and approach a land trust with a track record, initially just on concept.  Feedback from land trust will help shape language for TACF easement.  I don't know if Granville has a land trust.  If it does not, Granville Conservation Commission could be a possibility.  The Trustees of Reservations could be another possibility.

(3)  Once (1) and (2) look to be sufficiently in hand, approach Town of Granville on concept (which by statute MUST approve the gift of a CR).  In my experience, most towns respond positively, but there is still a definite protocol of exploratory talk(s) before anything formal is proposed.

(4)  Once (1), (2) and (3) look pretty definite, approach DCR on concept (currently that's Irene Del Bono).  Since it is not common for a CR to be subject to an easement of this nature, there  will be an educational process with DCR.  Very likely to be positive, but still an educational process.

(5)  Once everything else looks pretty definite, go to an appraiser with credential that IRS will approve for a valuation of the gift.  You need an appraisal that is approximately simultaneous with the gift.  Land Trust signs Form 8283 to acknowledge receipt of the gift.



I doubt that "National" is currently qualified to hold an interest real estate in Massachusetts.  National could probably become qualified, but in my experience most non-profits are leary about extending their commitments in that fashion.  Ruffin would have a sense of degree of interest in National in holding a Mass. CR.

Given the relative youth of the Mass Chapter of TACF, and our complete lack of familiarity with land ownership issues, I would not recommend a gift of a CR to Mass Chapter.  The easement is sufficient to protect the interests of the Mass Chapter.  We could probably increase our competence to become an owner of a CR, but that's a quantum leap for a volunteer organization.  IRS seems to be moving towards more and more formal requirements for maintenance of a CR.  We don't need those headaches.  My feeling is that we'd do better to concentrate on our volunteer orchard managers and our educational activities.

MUCH easier for the appraiser to deal with the entire gift of 50+ acres that to deal with gifts of a small parcel and a big parcel.




From: John Meiklejohn [mailto:j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:08 PM
To: Mirick, John O.
Cc: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: conservation restrictions & easements

To:  John Mirick
From:  John Meiklejohn
Re:  structuring conservation easements or restrictions

In reading the sample CR held by the Princeton Land Trust that you'd forwarded several questions arose pertinent to our planned CR or CE in Granville, MA, and the same questions may be relevant for others setting up seed orchard related easements on behalf of the MA/RI-TACF.  Briefly -
    1.  We expect to have two fields totalling about 2 to 2.5 acres that will need to be put into a CE or CR for the benefit of TACF.  One is a BC3 existing orchard and the other is the planned seed orchard.
    2.  These fields are a part of  50-55 acre parcel that we plan to put into a CE or CR in 2010.  These two fields are also on the edge of this larger acreage, so conceivably these fields could either be a part of the large CE/CR or a separate smaller one.

Questions:
    1.  Is it possible to set up, with a land trust, a CE or CR for the entire acreage in question, including the 2+ acres dedicated to TACF's mission, specifying carefully under "permitted uses" the various aspects of TACF's work?  Could this adequately protect TACF's access to and maintenance of the orchard fields?

    2.  If #1 is possible, is it preferable to setting up a CE or CR for the TACF fields, separate from the larger acreage?

    3.  What might the pros and cons be of #1 for TACF [and ourselves as landowners]?

    4.  Are either MA-TACF or the national TACF legally permitted to hold CEs or CRs or would a land trust or other entity need to be involved on TACF's behalf?  [I assume they will need an alliance with one or more land trusts.]

I look forward to and appreciate your thoughts on all this.

Thanks, in advance,

John





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From n1djb at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 10:11:45 2009
From: n1djb at yahoo.com (Jamie Donalds)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:11:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
Message-ID: <173339.28896.qm@web111406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Mass. Chapter Board Members,
?????? At our fall? quarterly board meeting?I believe we did not?chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
????I've selected?Sunday January 17th, 2010
????I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
??? Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.
???? 
??? Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?

???? Please let me know if you can't make this date work.

Thank you all,
-Jamie


      
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From j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net  Tue Dec  8 12:35:12 2009
From: j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net (j. meiklejohn)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:35:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
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Jamie, 

At this point Sunday 1/17 works for me. 

-John Meiklejohn 


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Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:11:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting 



Mass. Chapter Board Members, 
?????? At our fall? quarterly board meeting?I believe we did not?chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
????I've selected?Sunday January 17th, 2010 
????I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM 
??? Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm. 
???? 
??? Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available? 

???? Please let me know if you can't make this date work. 

Thank you all, 
-Jamie 

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From tsuga35 at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 14:19:46 2009
From: tsuga35 at aol.com (tsuga35 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:19:46 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
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I will get back to you tomorrow.would do it today but it is my birthday the big 65 and I am baking cookies.
Guy



-----Original Message-----
From: j. meiklejohn <j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting



Jamie,
At this point Sunday 1/17 works for me.
-John Meiklejohn

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From: "Jamie Donalds" <n1djb at yahoo.com>
To: "orchard mgrlist" <masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:11:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting



Mass. Chapter Board Members,
       At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
    I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
    I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
    Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.
     
    Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?
 
     Please let me know if you can't make this date work.
 
Thank you all,
-Jamie


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From brianeclark at hughes.net  Tue Dec  8 17:34:29 2009
From: brianeclark at hughes.net (Brian Clark)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:34:29 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
In-Reply-To: <173339.28896.qm@web111406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Jamie,
I will be out of the country Dec. 25 to Feb. 5.

Brian Clark
42B Clark Rd.
Ashfield, MA 01330
413-625-2791, cell 507-269-4249
brianeclark at hughes.net
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At 10:11 AM 12/8/2009, you wrote:
>Mass. Chapter Board Members,
>        At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not 
> chose a date and location for our winter board meeting.
>     I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
>     I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
>     Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be 
> a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be 
> plowed out if we have a snow storm.
>
>     Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?
>
>      Please let me know if you can't make this date work.
>
>Thank you all,
>-Jamie
>
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From jmirick at mirickoconnell.com  Tue Dec  8 18:51:24 2009
From: jmirick at mirickoconnell.com (Mirick, John O.)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:51:24 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting - Email
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January 17 at 1:00 PM works well for me.

John

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At 10:11 AM 12/8/2009, you wrote:

Mass. Chapter Board Members,
       At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not chose a date and location for our winter board meeting.
    I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
    I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
    Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.

    Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?

     Please let me know if you can't make this date work.

Thank you all,
-Jamie

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From Roy at Najecki.com  Tue Dec  8 19:42:02 2009
From: Roy at Najecki.com (Roy)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:42:02 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
References: <173339.28896.qm@web111406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Jamie,

Jan 17 is okay with me.

Roy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jamie Donalds 
  To: orchard mgrlist 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 AM
  Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting


  Mass. Chapter Board Members,
         At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
      I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
      I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
      Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.
       
      Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?

       Please let me know if you can't make this date work.

  Thank you all,
  -Jamie




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From loisbreau at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 20:59:12 2009
From: loisbreau at aol.com (loisbreau at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:59:12 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
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Sunday the 17th works for Denis and I...Lois



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From: j. meiklejohn <j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting



Jamie,
At this point Sunday 1/17 works for me.
-John Meiklejohn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Donalds" <n1djb at yahoo.com>
To: "orchard mgrlist" <masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:11:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting



Mass. Chapter Board Members,
       At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
    I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
    I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
    Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.
     
    Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?
 
     Please let me know if you can't make this date work.
 
Thank you all,
-Jamie


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From schoolmastersm at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  8 21:45:09 2009
From: schoolmastersm at hotmail.com (Brad Smith)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:45:09 +0000
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting
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Jamie,
I think that is fine for me, It is possible I will be going to the BB Hall of fame with a friend who was recently diagnosed with ALS.
Brad

Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:11:45 -0800
From: n1djb at yahoo.com
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter Quarrly board meeting



Mass. Chapter Board Members,
       At our fall  quarterly board meeting I believe we did not chose a date and location for our winter board meeting. 
    I've selected Sunday January 17th, 2010
    I think we can forgo the orchard meeting and start at 1PM
    Our annual meeting site at National Grid was great and would be a good choice for a winter meeting because it is most likely to be plowed out if we have a snow storm.
     
    Guy, could you check to see if the "board room" is available?
 
     Please let me know if you can't make this date work.
 
Thank you all,
-Jamie
 		 	   		  
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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Thu Dec 10 16:02:46 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Yvonne Federowicz)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:02:46 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island
Message-ID: <C746CC26.1A585%Yvonne_Federowicz@brown.edu>

These moths have just arrived west of Narragansett Bay ? they are in parts
of eastern MA as well.

Since they include oaks, maples, apples (!) and many other species in their
feeding, it?s possible chestnuts would also be targeted.

The caterpillars apparently devour buds.  Here is more information:

http://www.umassgreeninfo.org/fact_sheets/defoliators/winter_moth.pdf
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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Thu Dec 10 16:03:37 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Yvonne Federowicz)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:03:37 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island
In-Reply-To: <C746CC26.1A585%Yvonne_Federowicz@brown.edu>
Message-ID: <C746CC59.1A588%Yvonne_Federowicz@brown.edu>

P.s. I think that Rufin has mentioned these before ? they are spreading to
most of our orchard areas now...


On 12/10/09 4:02 PM, "Yvonne Federowicz" <Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu>
wrote:

> These moths have just arrived west of Narragansett Bay ? they are in parts of
> eastern MA as well.
> 
> Since they include oaks, maples, apples (!) and many other species in their
> feeding, it?s possible chestnuts would also be targeted.
> 
> The caterpillars apparently devour buds.  Here is more information:
> 
> http://www.umassgreeninfo.org/fact_sheets/defoliators/winter_moth.pdf
> 
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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Fri Dec 11 09:21:22 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Federowicz, Yvonne Marie)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:21:22 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
References: <E3E06E323B024C2F93EDEA59E70D7879@home51fd3ddc3c>
Message-ID: <AEFA42E689674541B6C78EA37938E99D02FAD893@MAIL3.AD.Brown.Edu>

I attended the repeat session on Conservation Easements, and obtained a couple more manuals for us.

It's Rhode Island - specific in some places, however, so the Massachusetts folks would need to research differences for that state.


-----Original Message-----
From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org on behalf of Roy
Sent: Tue 12/1/2009 8:49 PM
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
 
John,
 
Here is the link:
http://www.massaudubon.org/Nature_Connection/landprotection/news.php?id=298&event=no&sanc_news=yes
 
I just tried it and it works.
 
Cheers,
Roy
 

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	From: j. meiklejohn <mailto:j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net>  
	To: Roy <mailto:Roy at Najecki.com>  ; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
	Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:37 PM
	Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements


	Roy,

	 

	Thank you for these leads.  I'd definitely be interested in seeing the manual providing no one is in pressing need for it prior to our January meeting.   I could look it over, copy what I need and bring the manual to our next mtg.  In 2010 my wife and I plan to create a CE for our property, part of which will be for a planned MA-TACF seed orchard.  If Jamie and the powers that be approve, you may send the manual to:

	         J. Meiklejohn

	         183 Silver St.

	         Granville, MA 01034

	 

	In the meantime, can you send me the link for the on-line CE manual for MA created by the Audubon Society?

	 

	Thanks,

	John

	
	----- Original Message -----
	From: "Roy" <Roy at Najecki.com>
	To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
	Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 7:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
	Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Conservation Easements
	
	Last night the Narragansett Bay Research Reserve had a free 2-hour workshop 
	at RI Dept of Environmental Management HQ in Providence on the subject of 
	Conservation Easements. A 24-page manual was provided that has a checklist 
	of what a good conservation easement should contain, along with a sample 
	C.E.  The appendix has a list of resources, including an on-line 
	conservation easement manual for Massachusetts created by the Audubon 
	Society.
	
	I have a spare copy of the manual for MATACF (who should I mail it to?). 
	Another workshop is scheduled for Dec 10th. 
	http://www.dem.ri.gov/news/2009/pr/1105091.htm
	
	Roy
	Glocester RI 
	
	
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From rufin at charter.net  Fri Dec 11 10:09:22 2009
From: rufin at charter.net (Rufin Van Bossuyt)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:09:22 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island
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Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode IslandFour insects have been a real problem in parts of Massachusetts in recent years. Larvae of the winter moth were active this year on the American chestnut tree in Orleans that we pollinated a few years ago. Large Silver maple trees at our Harwich Port house were hit hard by the winter moths. Most leaves that survived were severely chewed and looked lace like. With the abundant rainfall of last spring,the trees put out new leaves and the trees looked normal the rest of the summer and fall.
There was a sever outbreak of 17 year cicadas along the south side of the Cape Cod Canal last summer. The adults cut into twigs to lay eggs and then the twigs die. Some of the oaks lost almost all of their foliage and then died.Out breaks of Gypsy moths and Forest tent caterpillars occurred in places.
Where trees were defoliated early in the season by winter moth and then again by the other insects after putting out new leaves, or by several years of defoliation, trees died. There are a lot of dead oaks along Rt.495 south of Rt. 24.

Rufin



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yvonne Federowicz 
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island


  P.s. I think that Rufin has mentioned these before - they are spreading to most of our orchard areas now...


  On 12/10/09 4:02 PM, "Yvonne Federowicz" <Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu> wrote:


    These moths have just arrived west of Narragansett Bay - they are in parts of eastern MA as well.

    Since they include oaks, maples, apples (!) and many other species in their feeding, it's possible chestnuts would also be targeted.

    The caterpillars apparently devour buds.  Here is more information:

    http://www.umassgreeninfo.org/fact_sheets/defoliators/winter_moth.pdf

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From johnviolin7 at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 18:48:03 2009
From: johnviolin7 at aol.com (johnviolin7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:48:03 EST
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island
Message-ID: <4e1.3ac14919.38543433@aol.com>

rufin probably means along 24 south of 495... 

i had wm's   at lincoln (04. or possibly 05)). i had to spray, and 
successfully used bt. i thought they would be very bad the next year, but they were 
not in evidence at all. actually there is at least one other species (native 
i think) which has flights of moths at this time of year, which doesn't 
seem to do quite as much damage as far as i know.   wms are an import, and can 
be pretty bad.
 
i drive daily through an area in weston where there is a great deal of moth 
flight right now, and has been for the last 2 weeks or so.   hope they 
don't turn into a problem.    john emery
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From rufin at charter.net  Sat Dec 12 15:00:52 2009
From: rufin at charter.net (Rufin Van Bossuyt)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:00:52 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island
References: <4e1.3ac14919.38543433@aol.com>
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I see the dead trees along RT.495. I guess it would actually be southeast of RT.24. I have not been on RT.24 recently.

Rufin
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  Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Winter moths arrive in Rhode Island


  rufin probably means along 24 south of 495... 

  i had wm's  at lincoln (04. or possibly 05)). i had to spray, and successfully used bt. i thought they would be very bad the next year, but they were not in evidence at all. actually there is at least one other species (native i think) which has flights of moths at this time of year, which doesn't seem to do quite as much damage as far as i know.  wms are an import, and can be pretty bad.

  i drive daily through an area in weston where there is a great deal of moth flight right now, and has been for the last 2 weeks or so.  hope they don't turn into a problem.   john emery 


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From rufin at charter.net  Sun Dec 13 10:24:52 2009
From: rufin at charter.net (Rufin Van Bossuyt)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:24:52 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
Message-ID: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy>

I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3 Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available to our chapter.
I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park, Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park, etc.
Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts. Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by the chapter.
We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the seedlings and again have good protection for them.
Any thoughts?

Rufin
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From Fred at acf.org  Sun Dec 13 13:11:02 2009
From: Fred at acf.org (Fred Hebard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:11:02 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
In-Reply-To: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy>
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy>
Message-ID: <271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org>

Rufin,

One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon is  
installing restoration plantings.  We need to start getting test  
plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut, to  
start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and whether  
the severity of blight and other diseases or pest conditions changes  
with location.  Bryan has a rather thorough plan for doing this that  
he has been incubating since he got here, which he will start  
presenting to the chapters shortly.  The nuts you are eligible to  
receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first restoration  
planting.  This might be an excellent use for them.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:

> I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3  
> Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available  
> to our chapter.
> I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
> I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard  
> locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park,  
> Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
> etc.
> Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts.  
> Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by  
> the chapter.
> We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected  
> from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they  
> would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the  
> seedlings and again have good protection for them.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rufin
> _______________________________________________
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From loisbreau at aol.com  Sun Dec 13 14:23:20 2009
From: loisbreau at aol.com (loisbreau at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:23:20 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
In-Reply-To: <271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org>
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy>
	<271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org>
Message-ID: <8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Rufin,

We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of celebration that we think it will attract major media attention. The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc. 

We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston office senior staff soon too.

Lois & Denis
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt <rufin at charter.net>
Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


Rufin,
One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon is  
nstalling restoration plantings.  We need to start getting test  
lantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut, to  
tart getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and whether  
he severity of blight and other diseases or pest conditions changes  
ith location.  Bryan has a rather thorough plan for doing this that  
e has been incubating since he got here, which he will start  
resenting to the chapters shortly.  The nuts you are eligible to  
eceive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first restoration  
lanting.  This might be an excellent use for them.
Fred
Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
taff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
merican Chestnut Foundation
4005 Glenbrook Ave.
eadowview, VA 24361
Email: Fred at acf.org
eb: http://www.acffarms.org
hone: (276) 944-4631
ax: (276) 944-0934

n Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:
> I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3  
 Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available  
 to our chapter.
 I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
 I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard  
 locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park,  
 Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
 etc.
 Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts.  
 Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by  
 the chapter.
 We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected  
 from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they  
 would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the  
 seedlings and again have good protection for them.
 Any thoughts?

 Rufin
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From Fred at acf.org  Sun Dec 13 14:40:37 2009
From: Fred at acf.org (Fred Hebard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:40:37 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
In-Reply-To: <8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
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	<271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org>
	<8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
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Hi Lois,

My only comment, other than to have enjoyed your post and its  
recommendations, is that Meadowview's success is not assured at the  
moment.  We have trees that came through the breeding program as  
specified.  Earlier generations of crosses appeared to have  
sufficient resistance to fare well in the forest, giving us hope that  
this generation will also.  But we don't know yet.  I still have a  
lot of trepidation.

It's hard to convey this without inducing too much pessimism or too  
much optimism.  At this point, I am cautiously optimistic.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 2:23 PM, loisbreau at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Rufin,
>
> We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with  
> the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy  
> overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact  
> is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of  
> celebration that we think it will attract major media attention.  
> The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's  
> office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few  
> B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we  
> haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor  
> Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc.
>
> We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in  
> our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For  
> Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston  
> office senior staff soon too.
>
> Lois & Denis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt  
> <rufin at charter.net>
> Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
>
> Rufin, One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon  
> is installing restoration plantings. We need to start getting test  
> plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut,  
> to start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and  
> whether the severity of blight and other diseases or pest  
> conditions changes with location. Bryan has a rather thorough plan  
> for doing this that he has been incubating since he got here, which  
> he will start presenting to the chapters shortly. The nuts you are  
> eligible to receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first  
> restoration planting. This might be an excellent use for them. Fred  
> Frederick V. Hebard, PhD Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research  
> Farms American Chestnut Foundation 14005 Glenbrook Ave. Meadowview,  
> VA 24361 Email: Fred at acf.org Web: http://www.acffarms.org Phone:  
> (276) 944-4631 Fax: (276) 944-0934 On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM,  
> Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote: > I have been informed that I am eligible  
> to receive 15 B3F3 > Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts  
> or make them available > to our chapter. > I prefer to make them  
> available to our chapter. > I would like to have them planted at  
> significant existing orchard > locations such as: Tower Hill  
> Botanic Garden, Moore State Park, > Mass. Fish and Wildlife,  
> Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park, > etc. > Others in our  
> chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts. > Maybe they  
> too would like to make them available for planting by > the  
> chapter. > We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is  
> protected > from the various animals that would like to eat them  
> and where they > would get good care by watering etc. We could then  
> plant the > seedlings and again have good protection for them. >  
> Any thoughts? > > Rufin >  
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From j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net  Sun Dec 13 14:46:15 2009
From: j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net (John Meiklejohn)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:46:15 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy><271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org>
	<8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8D6F591FF9B34D0A8F5FAE46052AD1AF@sarah>

Rufin & Lois,

I like Rufin's suggestion about the B3F3s.  How do we find out if we are eligible yet for B3F3 nuts?  Does the Chapter President or someone else have a list of who's eligible based on seniority in the chapter?  I doubt I would be eligible for nuts as yet, but I'd like to know how one finds out if and when one is eligible.

Thanks for any feedback on this.

John Meiklejohn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: loisbreau at aol.com 
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


  Hi Rufin,

  We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of celebration that we think it will attract major media attention. The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc. 

  We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston office senior staff soon too.

  Lois & Denis
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt <rufin at charter.net>
  Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
  Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


Rufin,

One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon is  
installing restoration plantings.  We need to start getting test  
plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut, to  
start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and whether  
the severity of blight and other diseases or pest conditions changes  
with location.  Bryan has a rather thorough plan for doing this that  
he has been incubating since he got here, which he will start  
presenting to the chapters shortly.  The nuts you are eligible to  
receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first restoration  
planting.  This might be an excellent use for them.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:

> I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3  
> Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available  
> to our chapter.
> I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
> I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard  
> locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park,  
> Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
> etc.
> Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts.  
> Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by  
> the chapter.
> We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected  
> from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they  
> would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the  
> seedlings and again have good protection for them.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rufin
> _______________________________________________
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> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org
> http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards

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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Sun Dec 13 14:48:46 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Federowicz, Yvonne Marie)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:48:46 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy><271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org><8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
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Hi John,

Some people have received them through seniority as a member in TACF overall, others by attending the Pittsburgh meeting that just occurred (that was 3/person).  However they will be having more and more BC3F3 nuts every year now.  So it will be getting less and less restrictive, and hopefully we will be learning more and more about the types of nuts and their hardiness to different stresses & the blight.


-----Original Message-----
From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org on behalf of John Meiklejohn
Sent: Sun 12/13/2009 2:46 PM
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
 
Rufin & Lois,

I like Rufin's suggestion about the B3F3s.  How do we find out if we are eligible yet for B3F3 nuts?  Does the Chapter President or someone else have a list of who's eligible based on seniority in the chapter?  I doubt I would be eligible for nuts as yet, but I'd like to know how one finds out if and when one is eligible.

Thanks for any feedback on this.

John Meiklejohn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: loisbreau at aol.com 
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


  Hi Rufin,

  We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of celebration that we think it will attract major media attention. The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc. 

  We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston office senior staff soon too.

  Lois & Denis
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt <rufin at charter.net>
  Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
  Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


Rufin,

One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon is  
installing restoration plantings.  We need to start getting test  
plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut, to  
start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and whether  
the severity of blight and other diseases or pest conditions changes  
with location.  Bryan has a rather thorough plan for doing this that  
he has been incubating since he got here, which he will start  
presenting to the chapters shortly.  The nuts you are eligible to  
receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first restoration  
planting.  This might be an excellent use for them.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:

> I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3  
> Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available  
> to our chapter.
> I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
> I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard  
> locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park,  
> Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
> etc.
> Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts.  
> Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by  
> the chapter.
> We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected  
> from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they  
> would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the  
> seedlings and again have good protection for them.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rufin
> _______________________________________________
> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list
> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org
> http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards

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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Sun Dec 13 15:05:36 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Federowicz, Yvonne Marie)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:05:36 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
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Hi Fred,

Thank you for your email,  we are optimistic as well though nothing is ever certain especially these days. However everyones' efforts are worthy of celebration for their own sakes also.

Do you have blight resistance data on the various generations of Nanking available?  I was looking at the Journal charts and found Graves & Clapper but couldn't find Nanking, is it in there?

Also, when you say that earlier generations have fared well in the forest, was it BC2F2s for Graves & Clapper?  Any Nankings? How did the different (Chinese) lines compare at various generations - are those data available?

Thanks and happy holidays!  Yvonne


-----Original Message-----
From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org on behalf of Fred Hebard
Sent: Sun 12/13/2009 2:40 PM
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; loisbreau at aol.com
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
 
Hi Lois,

My only comment, other than to have enjoyed your post and its  
recommendations, is that Meadowview's success is not assured at the  
moment.  We have trees that came through the breeding program as  
specified.  Earlier generations of crosses appeared to have  
sufficient resistance to fare well in the forest, giving us hope that  
this generation will also.  But we don't know yet.  I still have a  
lot of trepidation.

It's hard to convey this without inducing too much pessimism or too  
much optimism.  At this point, I am cautiously optimistic.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 2:23 PM, loisbreau at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Rufin,
>
> We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with  
> the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy  
> overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact  
> is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of  
> celebration that we think it will attract major media attention.  
> The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's  
> office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few  
> B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we  
> haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor  
> Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc.
>
> We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in  
> our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For  
> Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston  
> office senior staff soon too.
>
> Lois & Denis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt  
> <rufin at charter.net>
> Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
>
> Rufin, One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon  
> is installing restoration plantings. We need to start getting test  
> plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut,  
> to start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and  
> whether the severity of blight and other diseases or pest  
> conditions changes with location. Bryan has a rather thorough plan  
> for doing this that he has been incubating since he got here, which  
> he will start presenting to the chapters shortly. The nuts you are  
> eligible to receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first  
> restoration planting. This might be an excellent use for them. Fred  
> Frederick V. Hebard, PhD Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research  
> Farms American Chestnut Foundation 14005 Glenbrook Ave. Meadowview,  
> VA 24361 Email: Fred at acf.org Web: http://www.acffarms.org Phone:  
> (276) 944-4631 Fax: (276) 944-0934 On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM,  
> Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote: > I have been informed that I am eligible  
> to receive 15 B3F3 > Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts  
> or make them available > to our chapter. > I prefer to make them  
> available to our chapter. > I would like to have them planted at  
> significant existing orchard > locations such as: Tower Hill  
> Botanic Garden, Moore State Park, > Mass. Fish and Wildlife,  
> Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park, > etc. > Others in our  
> chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts. > Maybe they  
> too would like to make them available for planting by > the  
> chapter. > We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is  
> protected > from the various animals that would like to eat them  
> and where they > would get good care by watering etc. We could then  
> plant the > seedlings and again have good protection for them. >  
> Any thoughts? > > Rufin >  
> _______________________________________________ >  
> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list >  
> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org > http://mrsgale.fates.org/ 
> mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards  
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From rufin at charter.net  Mon Dec 14 09:26:40 2009
From: rufin at charter.net (Rufin Van Bossuyt)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:26:40 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy><271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org><8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
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John,

I am eligible for 15 nuts.
Six as a Life Sponsor member, Six as a Legacy Tree sponsor and three as a participant at the 2009 Annual Meeting. I believe I joined TACF in 1991 and I guess in am not eligible yet due to seniority.

Rufin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Meiklejohn 
  To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


  Rufin & Lois,

  I like Rufin's suggestion about the B3F3s.  How do we find out if we are eligible yet for B3F3 nuts?  Does the Chapter President or someone else have a list of who's eligible based on seniority in the chapter?  I doubt I would be eligible for nuts as yet, but I'd like to know how one finds out if and when one is eligible.

  Thanks for any feedback on this.

  John Meiklejohn
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: loisbreau at aol.com 
    To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
    Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:23 PM
    Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


    Hi Rufin,

    We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of celebration that we think it will attract major media attention. The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc. 

    We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston office senior staff soon too.

    Lois & Denis
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
    To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt <rufin at charter.net>
    Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
    Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
    Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts


Rufin,

One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon is  
installing restoration plantings.  We need to start getting test  
plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut, to  
start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and whether  
the severity of blight and other diseases or pest conditions changes  
with location.  Bryan has a rather thorough plan for doing this that  
he has been incubating since he got here, which he will start  
presenting to the chapters shortly.  The nuts you are eligible to  
receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first restoration  
planting.  This might be an excellent use for them.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:

> I have been informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3  
> Restoration chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available  
> to our chapter.
> I prefer to make them available to our chapter.
> I would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard  
> locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park,  
> Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
> etc.
> Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive B3F3 nuts.  
> Maybe they too would like to make them available for planting by  
> the chapter.
> We could start the nuts in pots in a location that is protected  
> from the various animals that would like to eat them and where they  
> would get good care by watering etc. We could then plant the  
> seedlings and again have good protection for them.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rufin
> _______________________________________________
> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list
> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org
> http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards

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From Fred at acf.org  Mon Dec 14 10:33:25 2009
From: Fred at acf.org (Fred Hebard)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:33:25 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
In-Reply-To: <001801ca7cc9$73e245c0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy>
References: <000801ca7c08$6b4d96b0$aba77444@userr0addk9epy><271AB340-BCC8-44F2-A739-37166D689992@acf.org><8CC4A40DD9E0934-8024-23CF6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com>
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Rufin,

The solicitation for seniority members may not have been mailed yet.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote:

> John,
>
> I am eligible for 15 nuts.
> Six as a Life Sponsor member, Six as a Legacy Tree sponsor and  
> three as a participant at the 2009 Annual Meeting. I believe I  
> joined TACF in 1991 and I guess in am not eligible yet due to  
> seniority.
>
> Rufin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Meiklejohn
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
>
> Rufin & Lois,
>
> I like Rufin's suggestion about the B3F3s.  How do we find out if  
> we are eligible yet for B3F3 nuts?  Does the Chapter President or  
> someone else have a list of who's eligible based on seniority in  
> the chapter?  I doubt I would be eligible for nuts as yet, but I'd  
> like to know how one finds out if and when one is eligible.
>
> Thanks for any feedback on this.
>
> John Meiklejohn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: loisbreau at aol.com
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
>
> Hi Rufin,
>
> We agree with you. Let's do as much good as we possibly can with  
> the B3F3's in an organized way next spring. We are all so hopelessy  
> overinvolved as to ever be able to claim impartiality, but the fact  
> is Meadowview's success is something so important and so worthy of  
> celebration that we think it will attract major media attention.  
> The legislative aide to our State Rep. wrote to the Governor's  
> office to see if the Governor would be interested in planting a few  
> B3F3's as part of the annual parks volunteer day next April but we  
> haven't had a response yet. We could do something cool with Arbor  
> Day at Tower Hill Botanic Garden or Old Sturbridge Village etc.
>
> We'd be glad to help brainstorming after the holidays. We sent in  
> our money for 6 B3F3's and we'll be doing Brad's "Chestnuts For  
> Dummies" presentation for the Chief Forester and other Boston  
> office senior staff soon too.
>
> Lois & Denis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Hebard <Fred at acf.org>
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; Rufin Van Bossuyt  
> <rufin at charter.net>
> Cc: Glen Rea <glenrea42 at msn.com>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 1:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] B3F3 Nuts
>
> Rufin, One thing we hope to get all the chapters involved in soon  
> is installing restoration plantings. We need to start getting test  
> plantings of Meadowview nuts out throughout the range of chestnut,  
> to start getting a better idea of how far the trees can move and  
> whether the severity of blight and other diseases or pest  
> conditions changes with location. Bryan has a rather thorough plan  
> for doing this that he has been incubating since he got here, which  
> he will start presenting to the chapters shortly. The nuts you are  
> eligible to receive could be pledged to the Mass Chapter's first  
> restoration   planting. This might be an excellent use for them.  
> Fred Frederick V. Hebard, PhD Staff Pathologist, Meadowview  
> Research Farms American Chestnut Foundation 14005 Glenbrook Ave.  
> Meadowview, VA 24361 Email: Fred at acf.org Web: http:// 
> www.acffarms.org Phone: (276) 944-4631 Fax: (276) 944-0934 On Dec  
> 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Rufin Van Bossuyt wrote: > I have been  
> informed that I am eligible to receive 15 B3F3 > Restoration  
> chestnuts. I can accept the nuts or make them available > to our  
> chapter. > I prefer to make them available to our chapter. > I  
> would like to have them planted at significant existing orchard >  
> locations such as: Tower Hill Botanic Garden, Moore State Park, >  
> Mass. Fish and Wildlife, Quabbin Reservoir, River Bend State Park,  
> > etc. > Others in our chapter will also be eligible to receive  
> B3F3 nuts. > Maybe they too would like to make them available for  
> planting by > the chapter. > We could start the nuts in pots in a  
> location that is protected > from the various animals that would  
> like to eat them and where they > would get good care by watering  
> etc. We could then plant the > seedlings and again have good  
> protection for them. > Any thoughts? > > Rufin >  
> _______________________________________________ >  
> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list >  
> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org > http://mrsgale.fates.org/ 
> mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards  
> _______________________________________________  
> MassChestnutOrchards mailing list  
> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org http://mrsgale.fates.org/ 
> mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards
>
>
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From kendra at acf.org  Mon Dec 14 16:45:40 2009
From: kendra at acf.org (Kendra Gurney)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:45:40 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!
Message-ID: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>

Dear TACF Members ?

 
TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to
house all of our science program data.  We have worked on this project in
the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these
projects.


We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the
database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who
will be using it and how.  This more structured approach, being overseen by
CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary
information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 


To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your
help! 
 
There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would
add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved so far,
please see the attached project charter.


PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter
representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that
will work for all users.  The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour
conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly
meetings, along with take-away assignments.  The planning phase will not be
?easy? but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the
database, the better.  Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this
point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with
the exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have the
time and interest.  
 

USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING



If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time required for
planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have
a prototype.  If you are interested in helping with the testing phase,
please let us know.  There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first,
and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and
remedy problems.
 
Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or
both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be great to have a
representative from each chapter involved in some way.  We contacted you
because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this
project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should
reach out to, please forward this information along.  If you are really
interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to
have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra and Sara
 
Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
 
 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu <http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu/> 
http://www.acf.org <http://www.acf.org/> 
http://www.patacf.org <http://www.patacf.org/> 


 

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From kendra at acf.org  Mon Dec 14 17:03:15 2009
From: kendra at acf.org (Kendra Gurney)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:03:15 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!
Message-ID: <006e01ca7d09$3daf5980$b90e0c80$@org>

Dear TACF Members ?

 
TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to
house all of our science program data.  We have worked on this project in
the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these
projects.


We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the
database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who
will be using it and how.  This more structured approach, being overseen by
CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary
information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 


To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your
help! 
 
There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would
add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved so far,
please see the attached project charter.


PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter
representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that
will work for all users.  The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour
conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly
meetings, along with take-away assignments.  The planning phase will not be
?easy? but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the
database, the better.  Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this
point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with
the exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have the
time and interest.  
 

USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING

If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time required for
planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have
a prototype.  If you are interested in helping with the testing phase,
please let us know.  There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first,
and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and
remedy problems.
 
Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or
both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be great to have a
representative from each chapter involved in some way.  We contacted you
because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this
project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should
reach out to, please forward this information along.  If you are really
interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to
have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra and Sara
 
Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
 
 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu <http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu/> 
http://www.acf.org <http://www.acf.org/> 
http://www.patacf.org <http://www.patacf.org/> 


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From kendra at acf.org  Mon Dec 14 17:06:55 2009
From: kendra at acf.org (Kendra Gurney)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:06:55 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
	Help!
In-Reply-To: <006e01ca7d09$3daf5980$b90e0c80$@org>
References: <006e01ca7d09$3daf5980$b90e0c80$@org>
Message-ID: <007e01ca7d09$c0d0af80$42720e80$@org>

Oops ? forgot the project charter.  Here it is!

 

----

Kendra Gurney

802.999.8706 (cell)

 

From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org
[mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of Kendra
Gurney
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:03 PM
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!

 

Dear TACF Members ?

 
TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to
house all of our science program data.  We have worked on this project in
the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these
projects.


We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the
database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who
will be using it and how.  This more structured approach, being overseen by
CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary
information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 


To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your
help! 
 
There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would
add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved so far,
please see the attached project charter.


PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter
representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that
will work for all users.  The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour
conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly
meetings, along with take-away assignments.  The planning phase will not be
?easy? but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the
database, the better.  Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this
point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with
the exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have the
time and interest.  
 

USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING

If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time required for
planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have
a prototype.  If you are interested in helping with the testing phase,
please let us know.  There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first,
and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and
remedy problems.
 
Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or
both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be great to have a
representative from each chapter involved in some way.  We contacted you
because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this
project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should
reach out to, please forward this information along.  If you are really
interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to
have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra and Sara
 
Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
 
 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu <http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu/> 
http://www.acf.org <http://www.acf.org/> 
http://www.patacf.org <http://www.patacf.org/> 


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From stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com  Tue Dec 15 06:50:32 2009
From: stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com (Mike or Penny Novack)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:50:32 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
	Help!
In-Reply-To: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>
References: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>
Message-ID: <4B277808.6000909@mtdata.com>

Kendra Gurney wrote:

> Dear TACF Members ?
>
>
> TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line 
> database to house all of our science program data. We have worked on 
> this project in the past, however funding limitations have held back 
> the potential of these projects.
>
Well I suppose I ought to. After all, I am a retired systems analyst and 
this is the sort of thing I used to do for a living.

Michael D Novack, FLMI

From marshalc at acf.org  Tue Dec 15 00:16:29 2009
From: marshalc at acf.org (Marshal T. Case)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:16:29 +0000
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
	Help!
Message-ID: <W5393923940225141260854189@webmail49>

Is this an extension of the 2 grants we have received previously from Walker Foundation to develop a web/online tree data base? "All of our science program data" would then include pollen program and other areas beyond tree data base that has been set up? 

Thanks, Marshal


Marshal T. Case 
President Emeritus/Advisor 
The American Chestnut Foundation 
408 Ehrich Road 
Shaftsbury, VT 05262 
Telephone: (802) 282-2795 
Fax: (802) 442-6855 
Web site: http://www.acf.org 

Trust For Wildlife 
http://neotropicalbirds.org 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kendra Gurney [mailto:kendra at acf.org]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 04:45 PM
To: 'Don Richard', 'Ed Toth ', 'Grace Knight ', 'James Powers', 'Jeromy Gardner', 
''Kendra Gurney'', 'Marshal Case', 'Paul Schaberg', 'Randy Knight', 'Spencer Brookes', 
'Todd Ross', 'Will Guinn', masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org, ''Marecic Chuck'', 
''Willby Roger'', josephdconwill at yahoo.com, gpwellesthurber at hotmail.com, 
''Bob Frank'', ''Salmon-Hudson Salmon-Hudson'', ''Rea Glen'', hmosher at tidewater.net, 
''Leigh Henry'', ''Alan Markert'', jlindsey at fairpoint.net, ''David Bingham'', 
''Ellery 'Woods' Sinclair'', ''Garrett A. Smith'', ''Gayle'', ''Jack Ostroff'', 
''James Gage'', ''Jane L. Harris'', ''Jennifer Allcock'', ''John P. Anderson Jr.'', 
''Kendra Gurney'', ''Micheal McGee'', ''Philip Arnold'', ''Robert Gregg'', ''Will Kies'', 
''William H. Moorhead III'', ''Janet and John Baker'', ''Susan J. Kelsey''
Cc: 'Sara Fitzsimmons', 'Bill Adamsen', 'Bryan Burhans'
Subject: TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!

Dear TACF Members ?

TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to house all of our science program data. We have worked on this project in the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these projects.

We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who will be using it and how. This more structured approach, being overseen by CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 

To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your help! 

There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would add great value to our database team. To see what is involved so far, please see the attached project charter.

PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that will work for all users. The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly meetings, along with take-away assignments. The planning phase will not be ?easy? but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the database, the better. Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with the exception of Dec 29th. We?d love to have your input if you have the time and interest. 

USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING


If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time required for planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have a prototype. If you are interested in helping with the testing phase, please let us know. There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first, and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and remedy problems.

Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or both) of these phases of the database project. It would be great to have a representative from each chapter involved in some way. We contacted you because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should reach out to, please forward this information along. If you are really interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP. We would love to have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).

Thanks!

Kendra and Sara

Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu

 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu
http://www.acf.org
http://www.patacf.org



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From loisbreau at aol.com  Tue Dec 15 07:53:52 2009
From: loisbreau at aol.com (loisbreau at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:53:52 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
	Help!
In-Reply-To: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>
References: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>
Message-ID: <8CC4B9CC9E6C35B-5B04-592C@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>

I would love to help, as I'm not working this winter and would be available on Tuesday mornings for conference/meeting calls.....Lois Melican



-----Original Message-----
From: Kendra Gurney <kendra at acf.org>
To: Don Richard <donrich at gsinet.net>; Ed Toth <petoth at juno.com>; Grace Knight <gsknight at tds.net>; James Powers <jamesp at gardeners.com>; Jeromy Gardner <jgardner at Bartlett.com>; 'Kendra Gurney' <kendra at acf.org>; Marshal Case <marshalc at acf.org>; Paul Schaberg <pschaberg at fs.fed.us>; Randy Knight <knightmd at tds.net>; Spencer Brookes <sbrookes at tds.net>; Todd Ross <alebrewernh at gmail.com>; Will Guinn <Will.Guinn at dred.state.nh.us>; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; 'Marecic Chuck' <cmarecic at hotmail.com>; 'Willby Roger' <RWiredraw at aol.com>; josephdconwill at yahoo.com; gpwellesthurber at hotmail.com; 'Bob Frank' <marion40 at roadrunner.com>; 'Salmon-Hudson Salmon-Hudson' <loghouse at fairpoint.net>; 'Rea Glen' <glenrea42 at msn.com>; hmosher at tidewater.net; 'Leigh Henry' <hhleigh24 at roadrunner.com>; 'Alan Markert' <alan.markert at myfairpoint.net>; jlindsey at fairpoint.net; 'David Bingham' <dbbingham at sbcglobal.net>; 'Ellery 'Woods' Sinclair' <wml61 at comcast.net>; 'Garrett A. Smith' <roarpine at sbcglobal.net>; 'Gayle' <gayle7258gk at gmail.com>; 'Jack Ostroff' <ostroffjh at sbcglobal.net>; 'James Gage' <jameswgage at sbcglobal.net>; 'Jane L. Harris' <janelharris at sbcglobal.net>; 'Jennifer Allcock' <jallcock76 at comcast.net>; 'John P. Anderson Jr.' <johnanderson7440 at sbcglobal.net>; 'Kendra Gurney' <kendra at acf.org>; 'Micheal McGee' <mcgee.michael at hotmail.com>; 'Philip Arnold' <arnold_philip_dr at sbcglobal.net>; 'Robert Gregg' <drbob007 at att.net>; 'Will Kies' <wkies at stamfordmuseum.org>; 'William H. Moorhead III' <whmoorhead at optonline.net>; 'Janet and John Baker' <berryledges at optonline.net>; 'Susan J. Kelsey' <scottishthistle at juno.com>
Cc: Sara Fitzsimmons <sara at acf.org>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!



Dear TACF Members ?
 
TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to house all of our science program data.  We have worked on this project in the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these projects.

We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who will be using it and how.  This more structured approach, being overseen by CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 

To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your help! 
 
There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved so far, please see the attached project charter.

PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that will work for all users.  The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly meetings, along with take-away assignments.  The planning phase will not be ?easy? but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the database, the better.  Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with the exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have the time and interest.  
 
USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING


If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time required for planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have a prototype.  If you are interested in helping with the testing phase, please let us know.  There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first, and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and remedy problems.
 
Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be great to have a representative from each chapter involved in some way.  We contacted you because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should reach out to, please forward this information along.  If you are really interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra and Sara
 
Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
 
 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu
http://www.acf.org
http://www.patacf.org

 


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From Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu  Tue Dec 15 07:55:50 2009
From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Federowicz, Yvonne Marie)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:55:50 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need YourHelp!
References: <005401ca7d06$cca56e70$65f04b50$@org>
	<8CC4B9CC9E6C35B-5B04-592C@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AEFA42E689674541B6C78EA37938E99D02FAD8A4@MAIL3.AD.Brown.Edu>


I would also like to be involved, Tuesday mornings should be ok in general.

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From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org on behalf of loisbreau at aol.com
Sent: Tue 12/15/2009 7:53 AM
To: kendra at acf.org; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need YourHelp!
 
I would love to help, as I'm not working this winter and would be available on Tuesday mornings for conference/meeting calls.....Lois Melican



-----Original Message-----
From: Kendra Gurney <kendra at acf.org>
To: Don Richard <donrich at gsinet.net>; Ed Toth <petoth at juno.com>; Grace Knight <gsknight at tds.net>; James Powers <jamesp at gardeners.com>; Jeromy Gardner <jgardner at Bartlett.com>; 'Kendra Gurney' <kendra at acf.org>; Marshal Case <marshalc at acf.org>; Paul Schaberg <pschaberg at fs.fed.us>; Randy Knight <knightmd at tds.net>; Spencer Brookes <sbrookes at tds.net>; Todd Ross <alebrewernh at gmail.com>; Will Guinn <Will.Guinn at dred.state.nh.us>; masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org; 'Marecic Chuck' <cmarecic at hotmail.com>; 'Willby Roger' <RWiredraw at aol.com>; josephdconwill at yahoo.com; gpwellesthurber at hotmail.com; 'Bob Frank' <marion40 at roadrunner.com>; 'Salmon-Hudson Salmon-Hudson' <loghouse at fairpoint.net>; 'Rea Glen' <glenrea42 at msn.com>; hmosher at tidewater.net; 'Leigh Henry' <hhleigh24 at roadrunner.com>; 'Alan Markert' <alan.markert at myfairpoint.net>; jlindsey at fairpoint.net; 'David Bingham' <dbbingham at sbcglobal.net>; 'Ellery 'Woods' Sinclair' <wml61 at comcast.net>; 'Garrett A. Smith' <roarpine at sbcglobal.net>; 'Gayle' <gayle7258gk at gmail.com>; 'Jack Ostroff' <ostroffjh at sbcglobal.net>; 'James Gage' <jameswgage at sbcglobal.net>; 'Jane L. Harris' <janelharris at sbcglobal.net>; 'Jennifer Allcock' <jallcock76 at comcast.net>; 'John P. Anderson Jr.' <johnanderson7440 at sbcglobal.net>; 'Kendra Gurney' <kendra at acf.org>; 'Micheal McGee' <mcgee.michael at hotmail.com>; 'Philip Arnold' <arnold_philip_dr at sbcglobal.net>; 'Robert Gregg' <drbob007 at att.net>; 'Will Kies' <wkies at stamfordmuseum.org>; 'William H. Moorhead III' <whmoorhead at optonline.net>; 'Janet and John Baker' <berryledges at optonline.net>; 'Susan J. Kelsey' <scottishthistle at juno.com>
Cc: Sara Fitzsimmons <sara at acf.org>; Bryan Burhans <bryan at acf.org>
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!



Dear TACF Members -
 
TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line database to house all of our science program data.  We have worked on this project in the past, however funding limitations have held back the potential of these projects.

We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning the database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to track, who will be using it and how.  This more structured approach, being overseen by CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF with the necessary information to raise the funds and put the project out properly for bid. 

To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need your help! 
 
There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that would add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved so far, please see the attached project charter.

PLANNING PHASE

In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a way that will work for all users.  The planning phase began last week with a 2? hour conference call, and we plan to continue with these kinds of weekly meetings, along with take-away assignments.  The planning phase will not be "easy" but the more people really thinking about how to best structure the database, the better.  Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this point we are meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with the exception of Dec 29th.  We'd love to have your input if you have the time and interest.  
 
USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING


If you are interested but can't commit to the amount of time required for planning, we will also need members willing to test the system once we have a prototype.  If you are interested in helping with the testing phase, please let us know.  There will certainly be some bugs to work out at first, and the more users trying different things, the quicker we can identify and remedy problems.
 
Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either (or both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be great to have a representative from each chapter involved in some way.  We contacted you because we thought you would be great candidates for assisting with this project, however if there are others in the organization you think we should reach out to, please forward this information along.  If you are really interested in becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to have some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra and Sara
 
Kendra Gurney
The American Chestnut Foundation?
New England Regional Science Coordinator
USFS Northern Research Station
705 Spear Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
Cell: 802.999.8706
Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
 
 Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
The American Chestnut Foundation?
The Pennsylvania State University
206 Forest Resources Lab
University Park, PA 16802

e-mail: sara at acf.org
phone (office): 814-863-7192
phone (cell): 814-404-6013
fax: 814-863-3600

http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu
http://www.acf.org
http://www.patacf.org

 


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From Fred at acf.org  Tue Dec 15 08:59:04 2009
From: Fred at acf.org (Fred Hebard)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:59:04 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
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Yes.

You're still here somewhere in chestnutville!  Good to hear from you.

Fred

Frederick V. Hebard, PhD
Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms
American Chestnut Foundation
14005 Glenbrook Ave.
Meadowview, VA 24361

Email: Fred at acf.org
Web: http://www.acffarms.org
Phone: (276) 944-4631
Fax: (276) 944-0934


On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Marshal T. Case wrote:

> Is this an extension of the 2 grants we have received previously  
> from Walker Foundation to develop a web/online tree data base?   
> "All of our science program data"  would then include pollen  
> program and other areas beyond tree data base that has been set up?
>
> Thanks, Marshal
>
>
> Marshal T. Case
> President Emeritus/Advisor
> The American Chestnut Foundation
> 408 Ehrich Road
> Shaftsbury, VT 05262
> Telephone: (802) 282-2795
> Fax: (802) 442-6855
> Web site: http://www.acf.org
>
> Trust For Wildlife
> http://neotropicalbirds.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kendra Gurney [mailto:kendra at acf.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 04:45 PM
> To: 'Don Richard', 'Ed Toth ', 'Grace Knight ', 'James Powers',  
> 'Jeromy Gardner',
> ''Kendra Gurney'', 'Marshal Case', 'Paul Schaberg', 'Randy Knight',  
> 'Spencer Brookes',
> 'Todd Ross', 'Will Guinn', masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org,  
> ''Marecic Chuck'',
> ''Willby Roger'', josephdconwill at yahoo.com,  
> gpwellesthurber at hotmail.com,
> ''Bob Frank'', ''Salmon-Hudson Salmon-Hudson'', ''Rea Glen'',  
> hmosher at tidewater.net,
> ''Leigh Henry'', ''Alan Markert'', jlindsey at fairpoint.net, ''David  
> Bingham'',
> ''Ellery 'Woods' Sinclair'', ''Garrett A. Smith'', ''Gayle'',  
> ''Jack Ostroff'',
> ''James Gage'', ''Jane L. Harris'', ''Jennifer Allcock'', ''John P.  
> Anderson Jr.'',
> ''Kendra Gurney'', ''Micheal McGee'', ''Philip Arnold'', ''Robert  
> Gregg'', ''Will Kies'',
> ''William H. Moorhead III'', ''Janet and John Baker'', ''Susan J.  
> Kelsey''
> Cc: 'Sara Fitzsimmons', 'Bill Adamsen', 'Bryan Burhans'
> Subject: TACF Database Project - We Need Your Help!
>
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> Dear TACF Members ?
>
>
> TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line  
> database to house all of our science program data.  We have worked  
> on this project in the past, however funding limitations have held  
> back the potential of these projects.
>
>
> We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning  
> the database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to  
> track, who will be using it and how.  This more structured  
> approach, being overseen by CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will  
> arm TACF with the necessary information to raise the funds and put  
> the project out properly for bid.
>
>
> To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need  
> your help!
>
> There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that  
> would add great value to our database team.  To see what is  
> involved so far, please see the attached project charter.
>
>
> PLANNING PHASE
>
> In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter  
> representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a  
> way that will work for all users.  The planning phase began last  
> week with a 2? hour conference call, and we plan to continue with  
> these kinds of weekly meetings, along with take-away assignments.   
> The planning phase will not be ?easy? but the more people really  
> thinking about how to best structure the database, the better.   
> Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this point we are  
> meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with the  
> exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have  
> the time and interest.
>
>
> USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING
>
>
> If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time  
> required for planning, we will also need members willing to test  
> the system once we have a prototype.  If you are interested in  
> helping with the testing phase, please let us know.  There will  
> certainly be some bugs to work out at first, and the more users  
> trying different things, the quicker we can identify and remedy  
> problems.
>
> Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either  
> (or both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be  
> great to have a representative from each chapter involved in some  
> way.  We contacted you because we thought you would be great  
> candidates for assisting with this project, however if there are  
> others in the organization you think we should reach out to, please  
> forward this information along.  If you are really interested in  
> becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to have  
> some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kendra and Sara
>
> Kendra Gurney
> The American Chestnut Foundation?
> New England Regional Science Coordinator
> USFS Northern Research Station
> 705 Spear Street
> South Burlington, VT 05403
> Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
> Cell: 802.999.8706
> Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
>
>  Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
> Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
> The American Chestnut Foundation?
> The Pennsylvania State University
> 206 Forest Resources Lab
> University Park, PA 16802
>
> e-mail: sara at acf.org
> phone (office): 814-863-7192
> phone (cell): 814-404-6013
> fax: 814-863-3600
>
> http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu
> http://www.acf.org
> http://www.patacf.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MassChestnutOrchards at masschestnut.org
> http://mrsgale.fates.org/mailman/listinfo/masschestnutorchards


From roarpine at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 15 09:51:36 2009
From: roarpine at sbcglobal.net (Garrett A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:51:36 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] TACF Database Project - We Need Your
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Hi Kendra,

I can't promise to attend regular weekly meetings, but I would suggest  
a feature I would love to see in the database, namely a good set of  
maps that show, state by state, and at small scale for the whole  
historical range, TACF-related plantings, locations of identified  
American survivors, and any other relevant chestnut-related locations,  
against the background of the historic occurrence of the tree.  The  
small-scale presentation should extend far enough to include outliers  
like the Wisconsin stand of survivors, and the recent coal mine  
restoration project in central Kentucky.

If nothing else, such a set of maps would help to impress potential  
donors of the widespread, serious nature of the Foundation's efforts.

Garrett


On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Kendra Gurney wrote:

> Dear TACF Members ?
>
> TACF is embarking on the exciting task of developing an on-line  
> database to house all of our science program data.  We have worked  
> on this project in the past, however funding limitations have held  
> back the potential of these projects.
>
> We are currently undertaking a very structured approach to planning  
> the database in hopes that we can identify all the data we need to  
> track, who will be using it and how.  This more structured approach,  
> being overseen by CT Chapter President Bill Adamsen, will arm TACF  
> with the necessary information to raise the funds and put the  
> project out properly for bid.
>
> To do this, though, there's A TON of planning to finish and we need  
> your help!
>
> There are really two levels of assistance from chapter members that  
> would add great value to our database team.  To see what is involved  
> so far, please see the attached project charter.
>
> PLANNING PHASE
>
> In the planning phase, we could use a small contingent of chapter  
> representatives (2-4) to make sure we are thinking about this in a  
> way that will work for all users.  The planning phase began last  
> week with a 2? hour conference call, and we plan to continue with  
> these kinds of weekly meetings, along with take-away assignments.   
> The planning phase will not be ?easy? but the more people really  
> thinking about how to best structure the database, the better.   
> Meetings are held on Tuesdays at 9:00 am and at this point we are  
> meeting every Tuesday between now and the end of January, with the  
> exception of Dec 29th.  We?d love to have your input if you have the  
> time and interest.
>
> USER ACCEPTANCE TRAINING
>
> If you are interested but can?t commit to the amount of time  
> required for planning, we will also need members willing to test the  
> system once we have a prototype.  If you are interested in helping  
> with the testing phase, please let us know.  There will certainly be  
> some bugs to work out at first, and the more users trying different  
> things, the quicker we can identify and remedy problems.
>
> Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with either  
> (or both) of these phases of the database project.  It would be  
> great to have a representative from each chapter involved in some  
> way.  We contacted you because we thought you would be great  
> candidates for assisting with this project, however if there are  
> others in the organization you think we should reach out to, please  
> forward this information along.  If you are really interested in  
> becoming involved please let us know ASAP.  We would love to have  
> some members participate in our Dec 22nd meeting (and beyond!).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kendra and Sara
>
> Kendra Gurney
> The American Chestnut Foundation?
> New England Regional Science Coordinator
> USFS Northern Research Station
> 705 Spear Street
> South Burlington, VT 05403
> Tel: 802.951.6771 x1350 Fax: 802.951.6368
> Cell: 802.999.8706
> Kendra at acf.org or kgurney at uvm.edu
>
>  Sara Fern Fitzsimmons
> Northern Appalachian Regional Science Coordinator
> The American Chestnut Foundation?
> The Pennsylvania State University
> 206 Forest Resources Lab
> University Park, PA 16802
>
> e-mail: sara at acf.org
> phone (office): 814-863-7192
> phone (cell): 814-404-6013
> fax: 814-863-3600
>
> http://chestnut.cas.psu.edu
> http://www.acf.org
> http://www.patacf.org
>
> <1.1. TACF Database Project Charter (Read-Only).pdf>

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From: Yvonne_Federowicz at brown.edu (Federowicz, Yvonne Marie)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:15:28 -0500
Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] MATACF Draft Minutes Annual Meeting 11/15/09
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*******************************************************
*
*   MA-TACF 2009 Annual Meeting November 15, 2009
*
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Morning Board Meeting with Elections: 10:30 am

Present: Brad Smith, Rich Hoffman, Rufin Van Bossuyt, Mike Meixsell, Mike Novack, Denis Melican, Lois Breault-Melican, Jamie Donalds, Yvonne Federowicz, Charlotte Zampini, Guy Shepard, Kathy Desjardin, Bruce Spencer, Brian Clark, John Meiklejohn

Kendra Gurney
Roy Najecki
(Others entered during meeting)

1.)Motion Jamie,seconded Mike M. Suspend term limits for re-election of the following Board members:
John Emery
Mike Novack
Rufin Van Bossuyt
Charlotte Zampini

2.)Vote on Slate of Director positions that are expiring as of 1/1/2009 as well as officers

Everyone was elected as on the ballot:

Terms beginning 1/1/2010:

Kathy Desjardin
John Emery
Yvonne Federowicz
Lois Breault-Melican
Denis Melican
John Mirick
Roy Najecki
Mike Novack
Rufin Van Bossuyt
Charlotte Zampini

Officers:
Jamie Donalds ? President
Yvonne Federowicz ? Vice President
Kathy Desjardin ? Secretary
Mike Novack ? Treasurer

People continuing for next year, not up for election until 11/2010 for 2011:

    Brian Clark    
   Jamie Donalds 
    Richard Hoffman
    Gary Jacob    
    John Meiklejohn
    Mike Meixsell 
    Guy Shepard   
    Brad Smith    
    Bruce Spencer  



We need to update our bylaws at the Secretary of State's office

John Mirick would be a good person to ask

We would like to send a letter to our retiring Board members Jim and Frank
We had National make Plaques 
Kathy knows someone in Mendon that does wood plaques ? we would give them a photo of what we want ? formerly this was done up in VT by Daphne's contact

Jim Garland and Frank Howard both started in 2000?
We could also invite them to the meeting at which we give them the plaques ? perhaps at spring

Kendra has a date and location for a regional meeting: 

March 20th, Urban Forestry Center in Portsmouth, NH

Workshop-style 

Purchase of a new projector for chapter?

We will try to get Mike N.'s laptop together with the existing laptop and see what we can do
or Yvonne's (Yvonne ended up taking the existing projector home to experiment with it and her Mac)

Nankings ? how many will we do? Fred thinks 10-15, we have a lot going on ? are there other options than the standard ~20 line one?
We can talk about this more in January, Fred may be coming




Annual Meeting 11 am  INFORMAL NOTES



*********************************************

  Brad Smith ? former MA/RI TACF President
 ?Chestnut 101?

*********************************************

 went over very well as we had numerous new attendees

*****************************************************

   Kendra Gurney, New England Science Coordinator
   New England Chapters Update

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Maine ? mostly done with Clapper & Graves
Blue jays stealing a lot of open-pollinated seeds

Orchards at Penobscot State Forest, Merryspring, Groce

Seed orchards: Penobscot Experimental Forest in Bradley, ME
two 5-acre plots (5 blocks for each resistance source)
Is it too far north?  North of Bangor

VT/NH: goal is 20 Graves
have 3 orchards

CT: goal is 20 lines of Clapper
have 12 lines so far

Predictive mapping project: GIS data used to start developing predictive model for finding native chestnuts in CT
Duke U. Stanback Intern, Christine Cadigan
She started this for one county, CT chapter would like to do more
soil type, aspect, drainage, then overlay on road maps

Had a TV interview ? ORTV, Hartford, CT

Atkinson Grove update:  Northeast Wilderness Trust working to purchase land ? including 15 acre parcel containing Atkinson grove; would become part of the Piscataquis Preserve. 

Glen Rea likes to show this to visitors.

Saturday March 20, 2010 Regional New England meeting
Urban Forestry Center in Portsmouth, NH
Workshop of panel-discussion style meeting

***************************************

Jamie Donalds, President MA/RI TACF
National Board Meeting overview

***************************************



National Board Reps can be chosen, not just chapter presidents, 3 year term

Mary Bell Price to pay balance of construction costs ? send thank-you notice

Restoration branches:  way to get people involved ? party to learn about chestnut
put together a committee, sign people to come, $40 to come ? gets you annual membership
donated things for evening, able to ask questions
PA had good response


Nut distribution to membership

Last year distribution was 2000 to oldest members

Half go to U.S. Forest Service

What do we call the product?
First name is ?foundation chestnut?
Latest is Restoration chestnut

Phytophthora testing:

two of our lines so far have good resistance
AB247 ? Medway orchard
JB575 ? Granville orchard

Joe James found several good ones from MA
Some of John Mirick's pure Chinese

*****************************************************
 
  Adam Wiskofske 
  Suppression of Chestnut Blight using agri-fos

*****************************************************

Adam worked with Charlotte Zampini this past year



agrifos
complex mode of action, not completely understood
causes direct fungal inhibition in high doses
affects host/pathogen interaction
increases elicitor molecules released from pathogen
increases the plant's immune response
increases lignification and other compounds that might kill fungus directly

Phosphites - 
persistent in plants
not harmful to ecosystem
not harmful to microbes or animals
minor negative side effects only in excessive doses
phytotoxicity from dehydration if spray all over leaves
reduces reproduction rates; immune response might be getting more of plant's resources


Adam Rufin and Charlotte ? marked trees in Upton, MA
Treated with Agrifos & Pentrabark

Also inoculated with same strains we use in inoculation

cork boring
also scalpel incision ? smaller wound on lateral branches

let cankers develop about 3 months

Most treated trees look very different ? walled off by bark, much smaller

Removed bark, sanded, traced canker on transparencies, superimposed on graph paper

Treated trees had large, significant differences in canker size (much smaller)

True for both types of blight

No significant difference between inoculation techniques
several possibilities why
The aluminum might remain on the tree bark and inhibit fungal growth also

Did work systemically but possibly also by direct inhibition

Phosphites most effective against severe infections
Need to be explored further

Also ? only done for 3 months

Might reduce nuts ? did reduce avocado production, but not eliminated
Don't know how long treatment lasts, might try every year
For sudden oak death, suggested twice a year application

Used 40 trees: 20 treated, 20 control



**************
    LUNCH
**************

with chocolate chestnut ice cream, courtesy of Denis and Lois, as well as many other wonderful treats


**************************************************

  Dr. Charlotte Zampini
  MA-TACF Breeding Coordinator
 
 2009 MA/RI Harvest & Orchards Update

**************************************************


Nut harvest from MA/RI Mother Trees 2009

E.Greenwich
527
Exeter
214
Coventry
149

Tower Hill ?Graves redo lots of nuts

Valuable new mother tree in Conway MA and good access to it, Brian coordinated this

* Total lines in existing MA/RI Orchards:

Have 20 good Clappers plus 8 small lines

21 good Graves plus 5 small

Two Nankings in ground, both rather small

Have nuts for two new Nanking lines plus 

Wrentham and Tower hIll did seconde evals of resistance

Lincoln, Wayland first


Research:
Nut test plantings at DCR Properties in Boyleston

Test of Agrifos/Pentrabark for treatment of Chestnut Blight
inoculation and treatment of local stump sprouts

How do BC3s look relative to pure Americans in forest planting ? Boyleston Wachusett Reservoir

How do seedlings do if plant first, then clearcut area around 

Next year ? looking for some more mother trees for Nanking but also need to spend more time on seed orchards
Most of our current mother trees are eastern MA ? would like more western MA, northern

PA has seed orchards started; 1 block seems about the same work as a regular breeding orchard.
1 block = 1 acre

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Kendra Gurney misc. updates

*****************************


Fagaceae Project 
She just came back from the conference; has booklet of abstracts
Technologies are improving very quickly; a lot more information available faster

New York chapter had mostly been using wheat; starting to use Chinese chestnut now; tissue culture techniques improving
Able to make progeny from a bud

Trying to take leaves, put blight on leaf ? lesion sizes vary depending upon resistance


**************************************************************************

  Dr. Paul Shaberg of U.Vt. Keynote Speaker

 American Chestnut Cold Tolerance ? 
 an Added Consideration for Restoration in the North

***************************************************************************

- Kendra's advisor



Historically, American chestnut was not as common in New England as it was farther south
Northern limit is confined to areas of more moderate climate ? low elevations, near large water bodies
prone to freezing and cold damage, historically

Little breeding in VT/NH until 2006

Chinese chestnut not very cold tolerant ? what about crosses?
Also introducing genes from southern chestnuts

Cold injuries can provide blight vectors
Hypovirulence has trouble in cold

Chestnut shoot study ? winter of 2006-7
Gurney et al. Restoration Ecology in Press
Chestnut Nut Study ? winter of 2006-7
Schaberg et al. Ecological Restoration in Press



Test cold tolerance in lab
Measure leakage out of cells

?Tm? is midpoint temperature ? halfway between death and start of leakage

Nature can be much harsher ? faster temp drops etc. whereas lab was very controlled

Chestnuts damaged at a somewhat warmer temperature than native red oak or sugar maple

In VT, -35 rare but possible

Straight VT American plus two backcrosses w/VT mother trees tested

Backcrosses a little more vulnerable, one about 7 degrees, other just a few

Injuries:  terminal shoot dieback
Shrublike growth habit

Terminal shoot winter injury:
Maple, Oak 0
American 30%, Bcs 60% ish

Nuts of oak, chestnut not very cold tolerant

varies by region but not predictably ? so survival depends on burial of some sort

Possibility for selection ? probably have to test each source

about 9 degree min to about 18 max (PA vs MD)

Ways to augment cold tolerance ? some nutrient regimes might improve tolerance


GMNF Study
Range-wide examination of PURE American chestnut nuts and shoots

Green Mountain National Forest

Test nuts and grow seedlings to test shoots, include sources from entire range, focus on northern sources
Planting under various silvicultural treatments
Closed canopies vs open vs partial
Light avail

More sun allows more sugar production, which helps cold tolerance
Best scenario in North?

How do sources differ in growth etc.

Can get % open area above each seedling

Implications of a warming climate

Cold can be a limitation: 
Warmer climate prediceted ? winter warming of 2-3C

Lots of contraversy over species shifts ? will whole communities move?

Chestnut might be more likely to be found up into VT/NH

Likely a great species for carbon sequestration, rot resistance

Long-term carbon sink

Note:
Send to Paul, Tom Webb's work that was presented to MATACF in annual meeting (online tree pollen map etc.) - relationship of glaciation & chestnut population of NE to Paul's spatial notes about chestnut cold tolerance