[MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news

Mon Aug 31 19:26:01 EDT 2009

Fred, 

Thank you for clarifying the space required for a seed orchard.  This fenced in area once fully cleared will have more than the 2/3 acre  needed.  It is irrigated, as well as fenced, and slopes to the south.  I expect to have maybe 7-10 BC3s survive the innoculation process out of the 175 that are in the orchard now.  My question to you is:  Will these remaining trees pose an obstacle or not to having a seed orchard replace this BC3 orchard? 

Gratefully, 

John 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Hebard" <Fred at acf.org> 
To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:33:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news 

John, 

You need room for 20 plots of 38' x 38', or 2/3 of an acre.  An acre   
is 43560 sq feet, but most plots aren't even in shape.  You also need   
a 30-60' border, especially on the south side, to get full sunlight. 

Fred 

On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:36 PM, j.johnmeiklejohn at comcast.net wrote: 

> Hi Kendra, 
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me on this important issue.  To be   
> absolutely certain, I would like a 2nd opinion from Fred or   
> Charlotte on this issue of seed orchard block size as there is no   
> purpose in my expanding the cleared area of the fenced breeding   
> orchard if it won't meet the minimum requirement on size for a seed   
> orchard. 
> 
> 
> John Meiklejohn 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kendra Gurney" <kendra at acf.org> 
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:36:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news 
> 
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> Hi John – 
> 
> 
> To answer your question on seed orchard block size, you need one   
> acre of space.  I’d invite Fred or Sara to chime in here if there   
> may be room to plant a block in ¾ of an acre, but I believe with   
> the tight spacing there is less “wiggle room” on the size than   
> there is for a breeding orchard. 
> 
> 
> Kendra 
> 
> 
> From: masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org   
> [mailto:masschestnutorchards-bounces at masschestnut.org] On Behalf Of   
> John Meiklejohn 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:58 AM 
> To: masschestnutorchards at masschestnut.org 
> Subject: [MassChestnutOrchards] Granville ACF orchard news 
> 
> 
> Jamie & John Mirick: 
> 
> 
> Re:  developing a conservation easement for the Granville ACF orchard 
> 
> 
> I was glad to see John has started the process of developing a   
> template for easement agreements.  He and I had talked at past mtgs   
> about collaborating on this but we had not actively connected on it. 
> 
> 
> Here is the status on my end for developing an easement agreement   
> for the Granville orchard.  With help from a friend I am slowly   
> clearing the trees and brush from the remainder of the current   
> fenced orchard area to create a space that will be about 3/4 of an   
> acre.  My understanding is that for BC3F2 orchards we want a   
> minimum of 3/4 acre plots [please confirm that I'm correct here].   
> Once the new area is cleared the plantable area within the fence   
> will be .70 to .75 of an acre based on my recent rough   
> measurement.  If this is too small for a BC3F2 orchard plot then I   
> need to know and will stop the work of expanding this plot.  Also,   
> if the plot is not large enough for the next generation then there   
> is little reason to create an easement unless we want to protect   
> the 5-10 BC3 trees that will hopefully survive the innoculation   
> process. [This BC3 orchard should be ready for innoculation next   
> year.] 
> 
> 
> Since I'm determined to use a portion of our land for a TACF-MA   
> BC3F2 plot I've measured another field that is at least .75 of an   
> acre.  That too will take a bit of clean up to be ready for   
> planting.  It is not fenced but could be. 
> 
> 
> I'd prefer to use the first field for the conservation easement   
> with TACF-MA because it is set to one side of our main acreage and   
> it already has drip irrigation installed. 
> 
> 
> Could one of you or Charlotte or Fred confirm for me that the plots   
> for BC3F2 nuts must be of a certain minimum size.  Before I proceed   
> with John on the conservation easement I want to be certain that I   
> have chosen an appropriate area for the easement and for the next   
> generation planting. 
> 
> 
> On a different subject, I went up to the Granville State Forest   
> last weekend to check on the Am. Chestnut that the State Forester   
> had informed us about.  The tree is about 8"dbh, shows no signs of   
> disease on the main trunk, possible disease presence on an upper   
> branch, and about 20-30 burrs.  It would be accessible to a   
> smallish bucket truck in dryer weather.  It's about 50 ft down a   
> woods road off a main road through the Granville SF. 
> 
> 
> John Meiklejohn 
> 
> 
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